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There are a number of reasons to play daemons of chaos, so we'll deal with the minor ones first. The Daemons are pure, concentrated evil - destruction incarnate, really. And, since they're supposed to be shards of whichever God spawned them, playing as, say, Daemons of Nurgle means you are playing AS Nurgle. They have some pretty slick models and a lot of options in the army, however, many people have swarmed to Daemons of Chaos because of their broken reputation in 7th edition.
Well, with the release of the 8th edition army book, those days are effectively over. Daemons are one of the trickiest armies to play now simply due to the amount of randomness thrown into the new book. The first big change comes from the Reign of Chaos table which is consulted when you roll for winds of magic. The effects of this table can help you for the turn giving you an upgrade to your Ward Save, bombing enemy units, or giving you free lesser daemons or heralds or extremely cripple you docking your ward save or destroying your own units.
The other one is the inclusion of Daemonic Gifts which are all random and disallows the use of core rulebook magic items except banners, though you may swap out your roll for a magic weapon.
Daemons haven't been made bad per say, but they have become quite unpredictable for both the player and the opponent; and with the possibility of hindering your own units by random chance, their competitive strength has now become questionable. Note that a popular choice with this army is magnetizing the models to both the square and round bases Or simply using the round movement trays of whatever they seek best , so that you can have two armies in one.
This gives you an advantage and disadvantage, the first is you have an army that can be used in both games. This seems pointless as we all know GW don't intend to raise prices, for risk of upsetting their loyal fanbase. At first, Daemon units might seem frail with their lack of armour and few available options The power of the Daemons lies here and access to Daemon gifts only buffs them further. That said, these are not the 40K Chaos Daemons and so you don't get to deep strike your entire army.
In fact, you deep strike none of it - you setup just as other armies. Remember that supposed frailty issue we were murmuring about earlier? Turns out Daemons can at least be shot at to keep them at bay, with almost nothing to contribute with in the shooting phase.
Although unlike other armies, they all get ward saves against it. Important Note: Each of the 4 gods Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch and Slaanesh all grant their respective daemons a unique trait. Like the ones from 40K, only better and considerably so. There are three Greater Daemon and four herald characters. Note: Under the current edition, named characters tend to be overpriced; you can pretty easily emulate most named characters from scratch and save yourself some points.
That said, a few named characters do have abilities and wargear or wargear combos unique to them, so if you absolutely need to have them, go ahead. Just make sure you're really getting your points worth. Skip for miles. Avoid like the plague of Nurgle. The Daemons battle force is a good place to start, otherwise start with a Herald and a block or two core. Your core can vary, with Bloodletters being 14 points each you want to put them in fights that they will win, so like every other army don't have them try to toe off with warriors because their OP units of characters.
Daemonettes are pretty good when used as redirecting units so a few small units may not be a bad idea. You also want to sneak Heralds into these units plus a special standard, though that last one is superfluous.
A good goal is to build towards one or two gods at first, and add to your collection over time, because every god by itself is fairly reliable nurgle is arguably the best when you mix two or more your army will quickly become a honed daemon death machine. Daemons do not get access to magic items, which in 8th edition can be a bit of setback. However, they may purchase rolls on the Daemonic Gifts table, available to them in their army book and just like magic items, it's easy to go overboard with them.
Your Greater Daemons get pts. Remember that you can swap your gift for a points-equivalent magic weapon from the BRB. What this means is that you can actually tailor your setup based on who you are up against. For example, if you're playing against an army with high armor, you could swap your Greater Gift result for an Obsidian Blade or Ogre Blade.
When you roll for Winds of Magic now, you take your roll and consult the table below. Some of these can help you, others can hinder and some can swing either way. Results 5, 6, 8, and 9 don't affect units locked in combat.
The lore attributes for all three are incredibly similar, as they all grant a token to one lesser daemon unit of the corresponding faction Daemonettes for the lore of Slaanesh, horrors for the lore of Tzeentch etc. Whether you plan on fielding a mono-god army will severely affect how you build your army. Mono-god armies can work very well.
Mixed armies will take some time to find your way of using them. In my experience, an all Nurgle army can be almost indestructible, especially with Epidemius giving the whole army continuous buffs. If you take a greater daemon then you should, if you can, make them at least level 2.
I personally wouldn't bother fielding a greater daemon in any thing under points, daemon princes however act as a fairly kickass replacement in battles. The named greater daemons are good but like mention before they tend to be a bit pricy. You should really always be taking a herald and more then often give them some loci or another, just for the added kick. Take a core unit 10 wide and deep models for pts.! Tactics differ depending on the core choice:. As a Daemon player myself call this guy Steve , I have played many a game.
I started off using mixed God lists which fell on their face- no no no, they didn't fall, they were testing gravity. After this I decided to try a mono-god list centred around Nurgle.
I have not lost a game since. I have found that if you just get the minimum requirement or so of core, say a horde of Plaguebearers pts , then beef out the rest of your army with special and rare choices, you're pretty much set that being said - don't skimp on core Taking a couple of units of 5 or six Beasts of Nurgle can cripple almost any unit your opponent sends your way - they work especially well on the extreme flanks of your army; plant a skull cannon next to them and the field should be yours.
Or you could be that just as planned that guy like me This is Jacob and use The End Times list and take half your army as greater demons. It will half your army size, but for me it works well, a Bloodthirster and Lord of change can just fly around and screw over your opponents plans as they either focus that big ass rapelord or the annoying troll laughing at his misfortune.
In my list i also forgo the special unit and just line up a chariot and cannon gunline to not only give support to your core but also give your opponent too many targets to focus on.
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Warhammer/Tactics/8th Edition/Daemons of Chaos
The Daemons of Chaos are evil creatures of pure magic, who come from another dimension called the Realm of Chaos. They cannot be truly killed - if their physical form is destroyed they will return to the Realm of Chaos. However they can be trapped, such as in war machines Hellcannon weapons The Slayer of Kings or mortal hosts Malus Darkblade. They can only manifest in areas with lots of magic, and will disappear if magic is drained.
Daemons of Chaos